The
Benghazi Transcripts: Top Defense officials briefed Obama on ‘attack,’ not
video or protest
Published January 14,
2014
FoxNews.com
Minutes after the American consulate in
Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation's top civilian and
uniformed defense officials -- headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office
session with President Obama -- were informed that the event was a
"terrorist attack," declassified documents show. The new evidence
raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of
the president's Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration
officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks
afterward.
Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of
AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya,
told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him who broke the
news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon
Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The
tense briefing -- in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya
Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing -- occurred just
before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with
the commander in chief.
According to declassified testimony obtained by Fox News, Ham -- who was working
out of his Pentagon office on the afternoon of Sept. 11 -- said he learned
about the assault on the consulate compound within 15 minutes of its commencement,
at 9:42 p.m. Libya time, through a call he received from the AFRICOM Command
Center.
"My first call was to General Dempsey,
General Dempsey's office, to say, 'Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to
see him right away,'" Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. "I
told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary
Panetta."
Ham's account of that fateful day was included
in some 450 pages of testimony given by senior Pentagon officials in
classified, closed-door hearings conducted last year by the Armed Services
subcommittee. The testimony, given under "Top Secret" clearance and
only declassified this month, presents a rare glimpse into how information
during a crisis travels at the top echelons of America's national security
apparatus, all the way up to the president.
Also among those whose secret testimony was
declassified was Dempsey, the first person Ham briefed about Benghazi. Ham told
lawmakers he considered it a fortuitous "happenstance" that he was
able to rope Dempsey and Panetta into one meeting, so that, as Ham put it,
"they had the basic information as they headed across for the meeting at
the White House." Ham also told lawmakers he met with Panetta and Dempsey
when they returned from their 30-minute session with President Obama on Sept.
11.
Armed Services Chairman Howard
"Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., sitting in on the subcommittee's hearing
with Ham last June, reserved for himself an especially sensitive line of
questioning: namely, whether senior Obama administration officials, in the very
earliest stages of their knowledge of Benghazi, had any reason to believe that
the assault grew spontaneously out of a demonstration over an anti-Islam video
produced in America.
Numerous aides to the president and
then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the public in the weeks
following the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans that night
-- as Obama's hotly contested bid for re-election was entering its final
stretch -- that there was no evidence the killings were the result of a
premeditated terrorist attack, but rather were the result of a protest gone
awry. Subsequent disclosures exposed the falsity of that narrative, and the
Obama administration ultimately acknowledged that its early statements on
Benghazi were untrue.
"In your discussions with General Dempsey
and Secretary Panetta," McKeon asked, "was there any mention of a
demonstration or was all discussion about an attack?" Ham initially
testified that there was some "peripheral" discussion of this
subject, but added "at that initial meeting, we knew that a U.S. facility
had been attacked and was under attack, and we knew at that point that we had
two individuals, Ambassador Stevens and Mr. [Sean] Smith, unaccounted
for."
Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, a first-term
lawmaker with experience as an Iraq war veteran and Army reserve officer,
pressed Ham further on the point, prodding the 29-year Army veteran to admit
that "the nature of the conversation" he had with Panetta and Dempsey
was that "this was a terrorist attack."
The transcript reads as follows:
WENSTRUP:
"As a military person, I am concerned that someone in the military would
be advising that this was a demonstration. I would hope that our military
leadership would be advising that this was a terrorist attack."
HAM: "Again, sir, I
think, you know, there was some preliminary discussion about, you know, maybe
there was a demonstration. But I think at the command, I personally and I think
the command very quickly got to the point that this was not a demonstration,
this was a terrorist attack."
WENSTRUP:
"And you would have advised as such if asked. Would that be
correct?"
HAM: "Well, and with
General Dempsey and Secretary Panetta, that is the nature of the conversation
we had, yes, sir."
Panetta told the Senate Armed Services
Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president
that "there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi."
"Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew
that this was a terrorist attack?" asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla.
"There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack,"
Panetta replied.
Senior State Department officials who were in
direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have
also made clear they, too, knew immediately -- from surveillance video and
eyewitness accounts -- that the incident was a terrorist attack. After
providing the first substantive "tick-tock" of the events in
Benghazi, during a background briefing conducted on the evening of Oct. 9,
2012, a reporter asked two top aides to then-Secretary Clinton: "What in
all of these events that you've described led officials to believe for the
first several days that this was prompted by protests against the
video?"
"That is a question that you would have
to ask others," replied one of the senior officials. "That was not
our conclusion."
Ham's declassified testimony further
underscores that Obama's earliest briefing on Benghazi was solely to the effect
that the incident was a terrorist attack, and raises once again the question of
how the narrative about the offensive video, and a demonstration that never
occurred, took root within the White House as the explanation for
Benghazi.
The day after the attacks, which marked the
first killing of an American ambassador in the line of duty since 1979, Obama
strode to the Rose Garden to comment on the loss, taking pains in his statement
to say: "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of
others." As late as Sept. 24, during an appearance on the talk show
"The View," when asked directly by co-host Joy Behar if Benghazi had
been "an act of terrorism," the president hedged, saying: "Well,
we're still doing an investigation."
The declassified transcripts show that beyond
Ham, Panetta and Dempsey, other key officers and channels throughout the
Pentagon and its combatant commands were similarly quick to label the incident
a terrorist attack. In a classified session on July 31 of last year, Westrup
raised the question with Marine Corps Col. George Bristol, commander of
AFRICOM's Joint Special Operations Task Force for the Trans Sahara
region.
Bristol, who was traveling in Dakar, Senegal
when the attack occurred, said he received a call from the Joint Operations
Center alerting him to "a considerable event unfolding in Libya."
Bristol's next call was to Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson, an Army commander stationed in
Tripoli. Gibson informed Bristol that Stevens was missing, and that "there
was a fight going on" at the consulate compound.
WESTRUP:
"So no one from the military was ever advising, that you are aware of,
that this was a demonstration gone out of control, it was always considered an
attack -"
BRISTOL:
"Yes, sir."
WENSTRUP:
"-- on the United States?"
BRISTOL:
"Yes, sir. ... We referred to it as the attack."
Staffers on the Armed Services subcommittee
conducted nine classified sessions on the Benghazi attacks, and are close to
issuing what they call an "interim" report on the affair. Fox News
reported in October their preliminary conclusion that U.S. forces on the night
of the Benghazi attacks were postured in such a way as to make military rescue
or intervention impossible -- a finding that buttresses the claims of Dempsey
and other senior Pentagon officials.
While their investigation continues, staffers
say they still want to question Panetta directly. But the former defense
secretary, now retired, has resisted such calls for additional testimony.
"He is in the president's Cabinet,"
said Rep. Martha Roby R-Ala., chair of the panel that collected the testimony,
of Panetta. "The American people deserve the truth. They deserve to know
what's going on, and I honestly think that that's why you have seen -- beyond
the tragedy that there was a loss of four Americans' lives -- is that
the American people feel misled."
"Leon Panetta should have spoken
up," agreed Kim R. Holmes, a former assistant secretary of state under
President George W. Bush and now a distinguished fellow at the Heritage
Foundation. "The people at the Pentagon and frankly, the people at the CIA
stood back while all of this was unfolding and allowed this narrative to go on
longer than they should have."
Neither Panetta's office nor the White House
responded to Fox News' requests for comment.
James Rosen joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in
1999. He currently serves as the chief Washington correspondent and hosts the
online show "The Foxhole."
